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		<title>By: emmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you make this any more Complicated?????

I tried a few things on my own and now I&#039;m even more confused as to why this process has to be so freakin&#039; complicated. I&#039;m thinking that all the folders I create from the dropdown are always subfolders, because when I try to create a new one it wants to know which folder to put it in. So last night from the dropdown I tried to create a bookmark for a knitting site, it allowed me to create a folder called &quot;Crafts&quot;, but wouldn&#039;t allow me to create a subfolder for &quot;knitting&quot;. Instead it wanted to know which folder to put my &quot;Crafts&quot; folder into, and since it didn&#039;t belong in any of my other folders I was forced to choose UNCATORGORIZED. I can understand a bookmark being UNCATAGORIZED, but why must I choose to put a folder into another folder - why can&#039;t it just be a FOLDER?

Now from the dropdown, I can&#039;t get to the Crafts folder unless I scroll down to the bottom of my alphabetized list of folders, hit MORE, then select the last item on the entire list called UNCATAGORIZED and then click the folder named &quot;Crafts&quot;.

So I go to my Bookmarks web page to try to move the &quot;Crafts&quot; folder out of UNCATAGORIZED and it&#039;s already alphabetized correctly in the regular list - so I click on it, find the teeny, tiny little &quot;create folder&quot; at the very bottom of the page - don&#039;t you think that feature deserves a more prominent location? Anyway, I create a subfolder called &quot;knitting&quot; and then move the &quot;knitting&quot; site into it. This was all done last night. The window, I&#039;m using IE 7.0 with tabs, is still open from last night, and the changes I made have not shown up in MyY! toolbar. I still can&#039;t get to the &quot;Crafts&quot; folder without going to the &quot;UNCATAGORIZED&quot; section at the very bottom of the list and the &quot;knitting&quot; subfolder is still not showing up. So I open up a new window, since repeatedly hitting &quot;Refresh Toolbar&quot; doesn&#039;t refresh my bookmarks, and there is no &quot;Refresh Bookmarks&quot; button to hit, and going to the MyY! Bookmarks pages and making changes doesn&#039;t reflect in an already open window... Sorry, where was I? Opening a new window, that should do it. Nope, Now I&#039;m back to an old but very familiar problem of an empty list of bookmarks from the dropdown. COMPLETELY EMPTY. I wrote to Y! about this months ago, and again a few weeks ago. They sent me a long email with three paragraphs of unrelated excuses and then the very last paragraph explained that this too is a bug and the work around is to double click or several click the dropdown arrow and it will populate the bookmarks dropdown. Only that doesn&#039;t work. My list is still empty.

So now I have two windows open, one with my bookmarks listed in the dropdown, but out of date and another with my bookmarks not appearing in the dropdown, all I get in that dropdown are the first four buttons starting with &quot;save this page&quot;, etc.

Any suggestions on what I&#039;m doing wrong and how I can fix this?
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<p>I tried a few things on my own and now I&#8217;m even more confused as to why this process has to be so freakin&#8217; complicated. I&#8217;m thinking that all the folders I create from the dropdown are always subfolders, because when I try to create a new one it wants to know which folder to put it in. So last night from the dropdown I tried to create a bookmark for a knitting site, it allowed me to create a folder called &#8220;Crafts&#8221;, but wouldn&#8217;t allow me to create a subfolder for &#8220;knitting&#8221;. Instead it wanted to know which folder to put my &#8220;Crafts&#8221; folder into, and since it didn&#8217;t belong in any of my other folders I was forced to choose UNCATORGORIZED. I can understand a bookmark being UNCATAGORIZED, but why must I choose to put a folder into another folder &#8211; why can&#8217;t it just be a FOLDER?</p>
<p>Now from the dropdown, I can&#8217;t get to the Crafts folder unless I scroll down to the bottom of my alphabetized list of folders, hit MORE, then select the last item on the entire list called UNCATAGORIZED and then click the folder named &#8220;Crafts&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I go to my Bookmarks web page to try to move the &#8220;Crafts&#8221; folder out of UNCATAGORIZED and it&#8217;s already alphabetized correctly in the regular list &#8211; so I click on it, find the teeny, tiny little &#8220;create folder&#8221; at the very bottom of the page &#8211; don&#8217;t you think that feature deserves a more prominent location? Anyway, I create a subfolder called &#8220;knitting&#8221; and then move the &#8220;knitting&#8221; site into it. This was all done last night. The window, I&#8217;m using IE 7.0 with tabs, is still open from last night, and the changes I made have not shown up in MyY! toolbar. I still can&#8217;t get to the &#8220;Crafts&#8221; folder without going to the &#8220;UNCATAGORIZED&#8221; section at the very bottom of the list and the &#8220;knitting&#8221; subfolder is still not showing up. So I open up a new window, since repeatedly hitting &#8220;Refresh Toolbar&#8221; doesn&#8217;t refresh my bookmarks, and there is no &#8220;Refresh Bookmarks&#8221; button to hit, and going to the MyY! Bookmarks pages and making changes doesn&#8217;t reflect in an already open window&#8230; Sorry, where was I? Opening a new window, that should do it. Nope, Now I&#8217;m back to an old but very familiar problem of an empty list of bookmarks from the dropdown. COMPLETELY EMPTY. I wrote to Y! about this months ago, and again a few weeks ago. They sent me a long email with three paragraphs of unrelated excuses and then the very last paragraph explained that this too is a bug and the work around is to double click or several click the dropdown arrow and it will populate the bookmarks dropdown. Only that doesn&#8217;t work. My list is still empty.</p>
<p>So now I have two windows open, one with my bookmarks listed in the dropdown, but out of date and another with my bookmarks not appearing in the dropdown, all I get in that dropdown are the first four buttons starting with &#8220;save this page&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>Any suggestions on what I&#8217;m doing wrong and how I can fix this?</p>
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		<title>By: emmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the best way to create subfolders in MyY! Bookmarks?

Can I do it on the fly from the toolbar dropdown? Or do I have to go to the bookmarks web page? My old subfolders came over with the import, but now I can&#039;t figure out how to make new ones - I&#039;ve tried to do it both in the drop down on the Y! toolbar and from the web page. I did a search in help and of course, there was nothing there for sub folders. For example: I&#039;d like to create a folder called &quot;Crafts&quot; and then within that make subfolders for &quot;knitting&quot;, &quot;glass&quot;, &quot;kids&quot;, etc, how do I do it?

Thanks,
-em
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the best way to create subfolders in MyY! Bookmarks?</p>
<p>Can I do it on the fly from the toolbar dropdown? Or do I have to go to the bookmarks web page? My old subfolders came over with the import, but now I can&#8217;t figure out how to make new ones &#8211; I&#8217;ve tried to do it both in the drop down on the Y! toolbar and from the web page. I did a search in help and of course, there was nothing there for sub folders. For example: I&#8217;d like to create a folder called &#8220;Crafts&#8221; and then within that make subfolders for &#8220;knitting&#8221;, &#8220;glass&#8221;, &#8220;kids&#8221;, etc, how do I do it?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
-em</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Yahoo Bookmarks and Toolbar and have used them for around ten years. I love the import-and- export to Bookmark.html file feature, present in past Toolbar versions. This gives you confidence that years of work and sweat are not gone in an instance. I know Yahoo takes care of everything (great thanks), but it will put more confidence to us if you also provide us the ability to manually save our work to a file (import export) for backup.

Long live Yahoo ...!

Eddie
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Yahoo Bookmarks and Toolbar and have used them for around ten years. I love the import-and- export to Bookmark.html file feature, present in past Toolbar versions. This gives you confidence that years of work and sweat are not gone in an instance. I know Yahoo takes care of everything (great thanks), but it will put more confidence to us if you also provide us the ability to manually save our work to a file (import export) for backup.</p>
<p>Long live Yahoo &#8230;!</p>
<p>Eddie</p>
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		<title>By: John Werry</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Werry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of the last bookmarks I saved have been lost by Yahoo.  I went to use them where I knew there were and they were gone.  There were located in various branches of my bookmarks tree so I know I have not mistakenly deleted a branch.  Very unreliable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the last bookmarks I saved have been lost by Yahoo.  I went to use them where I knew there were and they were gone.  There were located in various branches of my bookmarks tree so I know I have not mistakenly deleted a branch.  Very unreliable.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence, no problem, I&#039;m glad it helped. And yes, your data was *supposed* to be ported over automatically, but there were the odd accounts that had migration snafus from what I gather and the manual import usually fixes this right up.

As for the save button -- is this greyed out on the actual toolbar? And if so, are you using IE or Firefox, and what version of toolbar are you using? Also, make sure you&#039;re logged in to the toolbar.

As an alternative, you can always use the bookmarklet instead. The directions are here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bookmarks.yahoo.com/tools/showsave&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bookmarks.yahoo.com/tools/showsave&lt;/a&gt;

Note that if you&#039;re using IE, you may have security settings to content with, as IE thinks of this tool as a popup.

//nathan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence, no problem, I&#8217;m glad it helped. And yes, your data was *supposed* to be ported over automatically, but there were the odd accounts that had migration snafus from what I gather and the manual import usually fixes this right up.</p>
<p>As for the save button &#8212; is this greyed out on the actual toolbar? And if so, are you using IE or Firefox, and what version of toolbar are you using? Also, make sure you&#8217;re logged in to the toolbar.</p>
<p>As an alternative, you can always use the bookmarklet instead. The directions are here:</p>
<p><a href="http://bookmarks.yahoo.com/tools/showsave" rel="nofollow">http://bookmarks.yahoo.com/tools/showsave</a></p>
<p>Note that if you&#8217;re using IE, you may have security settings to content with, as IE thinks of this tool as a popup.</p>
<p>//nathan</p>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply Nathan to my last comment. My yahoo name is Lorenzo68. I didn&#039;t realize that the id didn&#039;t get published with the post.

No, the bookmarks weren&#039;t in the uncategorized folder, but the Tools&gt;Import tip did the trick!  I&#039;m amazed! Grateful! Wow. The bookmarks are back from limbo.

I hadn&#039;t considered that approach because I thought my data would be ported over to the new interface automatically. In other words, isn&#039;t having to import data from &quot;Yahoo Bookmarks&quot; to &quot;Yahoo Bookmarks&quot; a little unexpected? The possibility one might have to do that should be mentioned in the help section. (Though I&#039;m sure the help section is run by an entirely different crew of people.)

Nonetheless, you&#039;re the internet hero for the day. I appreciate your initiative to help someone.

Now, for your next trick, can you get the &quot;Save&quot; button working in the Save Bookmark popup window?

Otherwise, I&#039;m pretty upbeat about the interface, especially the searching and tagging parts of it. Very useful stuff.

Lawrence
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply Nathan to my last comment. My yahoo name is Lorenzo68. I didn&#8217;t realize that the id didn&#8217;t get published with the post.</p>
<p>No, the bookmarks weren&#8217;t in the uncategorized folder, but the Tools>Import tip did the trick!  I&#8217;m amazed! Grateful! Wow. The bookmarks are back from limbo.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t considered that approach because I thought my data would be ported over to the new interface automatically. In other words, isn&#8217;t having to import data from &#8220;Yahoo Bookmarks&#8221; to &#8220;Yahoo Bookmarks&#8221; a little unexpected? The possibility one might have to do that should be mentioned in the help section. (Though I&#8217;m sure the help section is run by an entirely different crew of people.)</p>
<p>Nonetheless, you&#8217;re the internet hero for the day. I appreciate your initiative to help someone.</p>
<p>Now, for your next trick, can you get the &#8220;Save&#8221; button working in the Save Bookmark popup window?</p>
<p>Otherwise, I&#8217;m pretty upbeat about the interface, especially the searching and tagging parts of it. Very useful stuff.</p>
<p>Lawrence</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence -- without knowing more (like your Y!ID) it&#039;s hard to say why a problem might have occured when merging your data.

First, did you check in the uncategorized folder for missing bookmarks? They might be there, and just got a little disorganized.

Second, if they&#039;re not in the uncategorized folder, go to our tools =&gt; import page and try importing again.

If all else fails, you can still access your old bookmarks from our UK site (I&#039;ll talk to our team about maintaining this data on another domain, but for now, use UK):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.bookmarks.yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://uk.bookmarks.yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;s an export feature there you can use.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence &#8212; without knowing more (like your Y!ID) it&#8217;s hard to say why a problem might have occured when merging your data.</p>
<p>First, did you check in the uncategorized folder for missing bookmarks? They might be there, and just got a little disorganized.</p>
<p>Second, if they&#8217;re not in the uncategorized folder, go to our tools => import page and try importing again.</p>
<p>If all else fails, you can still access your old bookmarks from our UK site (I&#8217;ll talk to our team about maintaining this data on another domain, but for now, use UK):</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.bookmarks.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">http://uk.bookmarks.yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s an export feature there you can use.</p>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, It&#039;s taken a while to find this page.

I would like to echo comments made above about bookmarks going missing, though in a different way. I use the latest version of firefox and the yahoo toolbar on Win XP. I don&#039;t use Firefox local bookmarks at all. And I&#039;m the only one with access to my computer.

Approximately Feb 21 or so, the migration to the new user interface erased all my bookmarks. Several years worth, in fact.

How do I know this? The version of the yahoo toolbar prior to the current one did not allow the creation of folders. I always had to visit bookmarks.yahoo.com to create a folder.

On Feb 21 or so (I remember because it happened right before I left on a long trip), I visited bookmarks.yahoo.com to add a folder. The new interface displayed only a couple of my folders, now empty.  Everything else was gone. Hundreds of bookmarks had been erased.

I thought this was strange. The bookmarks still existed in my yahoo toolbar, which I refresh relatively frequently. I was concerned that the new interface might require me to input my old bookmarks one at a time.

But I decided to try refreshing my yahoo toolbar first. I thought maybe that would synchronize the data in my toolbar to the now blank bookmarks.yahoo.com.

Backing up the toolbar data locally isn&#039;t an option of course, so I had to roll the dice.

Of course, the worst case happened. Instead of the toolbar data getting input to the website, the blank website data was written into my toolbar.

Alarmed, I updated the toolbar while hoping this was some kind of compatibility issue. I was only a version or two back. But the new toolbar version didn&#039;t change the situation.

So now my data&#039;s gone. Calling yahoo didn&#039;t help much. They don&#039;t have phone support for the bookmarks product.

Even with the new yahoo toolbar, with my setup, it&#039;s impossible to add bookmarks. Despite Javascript enabled in firefox, the &quot;save&quot; button in the new bookmarks window is always grayed out. The cancel button works fine. I have to visit the website to add a bookmark, which is not convenient.

So as it is, the bookmarks/toolbar product doesn&#039;t work for my XPSP2/FF2.0.02/toolbar 14020070112 combination.

Also, Yahoo erased years of my data.

Lawrence

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, It&#8217;s taken a while to find this page.</p>
<p>I would like to echo comments made above about bookmarks going missing, though in a different way. I use the latest version of firefox and the yahoo toolbar on Win XP. I don&#8217;t use Firefox local bookmarks at all. And I&#8217;m the only one with access to my computer.</p>
<p>Approximately Feb 21 or so, the migration to the new user interface erased all my bookmarks. Several years worth, in fact.</p>
<p>How do I know this? The version of the yahoo toolbar prior to the current one did not allow the creation of folders. I always had to visit bookmarks.yahoo.com to create a folder.</p>
<p>On Feb 21 or so (I remember because it happened right before I left on a long trip), I visited bookmarks.yahoo.com to add a folder. The new interface displayed only a couple of my folders, now empty.  Everything else was gone. Hundreds of bookmarks had been erased.</p>
<p>I thought this was strange. The bookmarks still existed in my yahoo toolbar, which I refresh relatively frequently. I was concerned that the new interface might require me to input my old bookmarks one at a time.</p>
<p>But I decided to try refreshing my yahoo toolbar first. I thought maybe that would synchronize the data in my toolbar to the now blank bookmarks.yahoo.com.</p>
<p>Backing up the toolbar data locally isn&#8217;t an option of course, so I had to roll the dice.</p>
<p>Of course, the worst case happened. Instead of the toolbar data getting input to the website, the blank website data was written into my toolbar.</p>
<p>Alarmed, I updated the toolbar while hoping this was some kind of compatibility issue. I was only a version or two back. But the new toolbar version didn&#8217;t change the situation.</p>
<p>So now my data&#8217;s gone. Calling yahoo didn&#8217;t help much. They don&#8217;t have phone support for the bookmarks product.</p>
<p>Even with the new yahoo toolbar, with my setup, it&#8217;s impossible to add bookmarks. Despite Javascript enabled in firefox, the &#8220;save&#8221; button in the new bookmarks window is always grayed out. The cancel button works fine. I have to visit the website to add a bookmark, which is not convenient.</p>
<p>So as it is, the bookmarks/toolbar product doesn&#8217;t work for my XPSP2/FF2.0.02/toolbar 14020070112 combination.</p>
<p>Also, Yahoo erased years of my data.</p>
<p>Lawrence</p>
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		<title>By: flaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>flaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The features of the old bookmarks I liked was the ability to display the links on MyYahoo homepage. Please explain how I can replicate that feature with the new Beta.

Thanks
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<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rfsi -- it&#039;d be helpful if you could describe what exactly it is about the new bookmarks that you dislike so much? Please list all the old features you miss, which new ones bug you, and any details about the total experience you dislike.

There is currently no way to revert to the old bookmarks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rfsi &#8212; it&#8217;d be helpful if you could describe what exactly it is about the new bookmarks that you dislike so much? Please list all the old features you miss, which new ones bug you, and any details about the total experience you dislike.</p>
<p>There is currently no way to revert to the old bookmarks.</p>
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