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		<title>By: Tom H</title>
		<link>http://www.ysearchblog.com/2006/10/24/better-bookmarks-better-toolbar/comment-page-1/#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael posted on 10/25/06 that he hopes to be able to login to delicious using his Yahoo id.  I have the opposite desire: I want my e-mail accounts to be separate from everything else.  I can&#039;t stand it when things are tied together.  I use delicious in part because it&#039;s separate from everything else.  No side effects!  No single sign-on (which, when switching e-mails, becomes single sign-off) for me!  I give that the single finger!

But, for some people, who trust big faceless corporations to know what&#039;s best for them, they should have the option of having One Account To Rule Them All.

Flexibility is the key.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael posted on 10/25/06 that he hopes to be able to login to delicious using his Yahoo id.  I have the opposite desire: I want my e-mail accounts to be separate from everything else.  I can&#8217;t stand it when things are tied together.  I use delicious in part because it&#8217;s separate from everything else.  No side effects!  No single sign-on (which, when switching e-mails, becomes single sign-off) for me!  I give that the single finger!</p>
<p>But, for some people, who trust big faceless corporations to know what&#8217;s best for them, they should have the option of having One Account To Rule Them All.</p>
<p>Flexibility is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: j. matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>j. matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i too have lost many bookmarks (and regained old deleted ones) in the transfer from old to new bookmarks.  really quite a disappointment.

what may help:

right now, &quot;quick access&quot; only displays 1) Recently Saved and 2)Quick List. what would be incredibly intuitive and helpful would be to be able to see &quot;ALL&quot; bookmarks in folders from the dropdown menu in the toolbar. it&#039;s crazy that you cannot see all of your old bookmarks in the new toolbar drop down menu.  how this has gone overlooked is beyond me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too have lost many bookmarks (and regained old deleted ones) in the transfer from old to new bookmarks.  really quite a disappointment.</p>
<p>what may help:</p>
<p>right now, &#8220;quick access&#8221; only displays 1) Recently Saved and 2)Quick List. what would be incredibly intuitive and helpful would be to be able to see &#8220;ALL&#8221; bookmarks in folders from the dropdown menu in the toolbar. it&#8217;s crazy that you cannot see all of your old bookmarks in the new toolbar drop down menu.  how this has gone overlooked is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, above URL should be:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bookmarks.yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bookmarks.yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, above URL should be:</p>
<p><a href="http://bookmarks.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">http://bookmarks.yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.ysearchblog.com/2006/10/24/better-bookmarks-better-toolbar/comment-page-1/#comment-3568</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim

MyWeb and Y! Bookmarks share a database, therefore you bookmarks are available (and visible) in both MyWeb and Yahoo! Bookmarks. It&#039;s impossible for them to only appear in one and not the other.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bookmarks.yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bookmarks.yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s important to remember that all the bookmarks that were formerly in the &#039;root&#039; folder, are now in the &#039;uncategorized&#039; folder. Also, you can use the search function in the bookmarks site -- it&#039;s a fast and easy way of finding a bookmark that&#039;s been misplaced.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim</p>
<p>MyWeb and Y! Bookmarks share a database, therefore you bookmarks are available (and visible) in both MyWeb and Yahoo! Bookmarks. It&#8217;s impossible for them to only appear in one and not the other.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookmarks.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookmarks.yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to remember that all the bookmarks that were formerly in the &#8216;root&#8217; folder, are now in the &#8216;uncategorized&#8217; folder. Also, you can use the search function in the bookmarks site &#8212; it&#8217;s a fast and easy way of finding a bookmark that&#8217;s been misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Holm</title>
		<link>http://www.ysearchblog.com/2006/10/24/better-bookmarks-better-toolbar/comment-page-1/#comment-3567</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Holm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alister I think I figured out whats going on.  The bookmarks are now split into what I would consider &#039;old method&#039; and &#039;MyWeb&#039;.  If I don&#039;t see a bookmark under the familar location, I have to go to MyWeb to find the bookmarks.  This is a bit of a pain and causes A LOT of confusion for many people.  Just search the web for &quot;Yahoo bookmarks missing&quot; and you&#039;ll see what I mean.

I honestly don&#039;t see much benefit to this new toolbar and will continue using the old toolbar until I can&#039;t, then if this issue is not resolved I&#039;ll switch to Google toolbar (which I&#039;m sure a lot of people already have).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alister I think I figured out whats going on.  The bookmarks are now split into what I would consider &#8216;old method&#8217; and &#8216;MyWeb&#8217;.  If I don&#8217;t see a bookmark under the familar location, I have to go to MyWeb to find the bookmarks.  This is a bit of a pain and causes A LOT of confusion for many people.  Just search the web for &#8220;Yahoo bookmarks missing&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see what I mean.</p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t see much benefit to this new toolbar and will continue using the old toolbar until I can&#8217;t, then if this issue is not resolved I&#8217;ll switch to Google toolbar (which I&#8217;m sure a lot of people already have).</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim -- All bookmarks should be in the new system, is it possible you&#039;re just not seeing them? Go to  bookmarks.yahoo.com and perform a search for a bookmark that you can&#039;t find.

The biggest change between these two versions is that there&#039;s no more &#039;root&#039; folder where you can put frequently used bookmarks that aren&#039;t within a folder. We&#039;ve moved to simply putting these within an &quot;uncategorized&quot; folder instead. Take a look in there -- and let us know if they&#039;re not there. If they&#039;re not, please log the details here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_bkmk2_feedback&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_bkmk2_feedback&lt;/a&gt;

Alister -- the system only allows one save of a particular URL. We do have a bug that allows you to *think* you&#039;re saving multiple copies of the same URL, but we&#039;re addressing it for the next release. What will happen is that if you click &#039;save&#039; on a URL you already have, we&#039;ll change the &#039;add&#039; interface into an &#039;edit&#039; interface.

So yes, we&#039;re aware of the issue and it&#039;s being addressed right now :) Thanks for the note.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8212; All bookmarks should be in the new system, is it possible you&#8217;re just not seeing them? Go to  bookmarks.yahoo.com and perform a search for a bookmark that you can&#8217;t find.</p>
<p>The biggest change between these two versions is that there&#8217;s no more &#8216;root&#8217; folder where you can put frequently used bookmarks that aren&#8217;t within a folder. We&#8217;ve moved to simply putting these within an &#8220;uncategorized&#8221; folder instead. Take a look in there &#8212; and let us know if they&#8217;re not there. If they&#8217;re not, please log the details here:</p>
<p><a href="http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_bkmk2_feedback" rel="nofollow">http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_bkmk2_feedback</a></p>
<p>Alister &#8212; the system only allows one save of a particular URL. We do have a bug that allows you to *think* you&#8217;re saving multiple copies of the same URL, but we&#8217;re addressing it for the next release. What will happen is that if you click &#8217;save&#8217; on a URL you already have, we&#8217;ll change the &#8216;add&#8217; interface into an &#8216;edit&#8217; interface.</p>
<p>So yes, we&#8217;re aware of the issue and it&#8217;s being addressed right now :) Thanks for the note.</p>
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		<title>By: Alister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nathan, I forgot to ask about the duplicating of urls.  Currently it appears that you can create duplicates.  Have you looked at changing the system so this cannot happen?  The problem is that sometimes one adds a URL that is already in the bookmarks and ends up with many of the same over time.
Thanks again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nathan, I forgot to ask about the duplicating of urls.  Currently it appears that you can create duplicates.  Have you looked at changing the system so this cannot happen?  The problem is that sometimes one adds a URL that is already in the bookmarks and ends up with many of the same over time.<br />
Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Holm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Holm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I get to the old bookmarks in order to back them up?

The new Yahoo Bookmarks is missing A TON of my bookmarks on my new computer, but my old computer with the older toolbar has them all, but I can&#039;t get to the old bookmarks management page, the new management page is missing a lot of my bookmarks.

Please help, these bookmarks are very important to me.

Thanks,

Tim
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I get to the old bookmarks in order to back them up?</p>
<p>The new Yahoo Bookmarks is missing A TON of my bookmarks on my new computer, but my old computer with the older toolbar has them all, but I can&#8217;t get to the old bookmarks management page, the new management page is missing a lot of my bookmarks.</p>
<p>Please help, these bookmarks are very important to me.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Alister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, thanks very much for your response - it is much appreciated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, thanks very much for your response &#8211; it is much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.ysearchblog.com/2006/10/24/better-bookmarks-better-toolbar/comment-page-1/#comment-3562</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nsskumar -- Bookmarks and MyWeb share the same database, so you can&#039;t really &#039;move&#039; items between the two. However, if you delete items from one, they are gone in the other as well. Keep that in mind (we display a warning when you do this in the &#039;delete&#039; action on Bookmarks).

Alister -- We won&#039;t be allowing the editing of a bookmark anytime soon, because of the way our database is designed: in effect what we&#039;d be doing is deleting the old item and adding a new one.

Also, we put a lot of effort into trying to keep the bookmark list as un-cluttered with extra links or extraneous actions. That&#039;s why we didn&#039;t include a link to allow you to open a link in a new window (we personally like the right-click option, as it allows you to open a URL in a new window OR tab) or put the &#039;move&#039; command into &#039;edit&#039;. Since there are two other ways to &#039;move&#039; an item (with an action, or via Drag n&#039; Drop), we felt these were sufficient.

But thanks for the feedback -- we&#039;ll keep these ideas in mind as we continue to work on the product. This type of user feedback is really important to us, and we continue to re-evaluate the choices we make along the way based on what we hear from our users.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nsskumar &#8212; Bookmarks and MyWeb share the same database, so you can&#8217;t really &#8216;move&#8217; items between the two. However, if you delete items from one, they are gone in the other as well. Keep that in mind (we display a warning when you do this in the &#8216;delete&#8217; action on Bookmarks).</p>
<p>Alister &#8212; We won&#8217;t be allowing the editing of a bookmark anytime soon, because of the way our database is designed: in effect what we&#8217;d be doing is deleting the old item and adding a new one.</p>
<p>Also, we put a lot of effort into trying to keep the bookmark list as un-cluttered with extra links or extraneous actions. That&#8217;s why we didn&#8217;t include a link to allow you to open a link in a new window (we personally like the right-click option, as it allows you to open a URL in a new window OR tab) or put the &#8216;move&#8217; command into &#8216;edit&#8217;. Since there are two other ways to &#8216;move&#8217; an item (with an action, or via Drag n&#8217; Drop), we felt these were sufficient.</p>
<p>But thanks for the feedback &#8212; we&#8217;ll keep these ideas in mind as we continue to work on the product. This type of user feedback is really important to us, and we continue to re-evaluate the choices we make along the way based on what we hear from our users.</p>
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